Self Defense or Looking for Trouble?

The stabbing death of a pit bull on Kits Beach this week has been all over the news the past few days.

I had heard the story, second hand, that an elderly man had been walking his Pug off-leash along the beach when they encountered an on-leash Pit Bull. The two dogs said hello, which led to an altercation (as all dog owners know, it sometimes does) and the Pit Bull ended up clamping down on the Pug’s neck and would not let go. The 72 year old man then pulled out a knife and stabbed the Pit Bull to death, doing what he had to do, he said, to save his dog.

My first thought was, how sad. As a dog owner I could empathize with both parties. I have had someone kick my dog in the past and I became fearless, rushing towards the man, who looked like he also wanted to hit me, yelling at him and threatening to call the police. So I get the instantaneous reaction of defending your dog against harm no matter what. But, that said, something about this story raised a red flag for me. Why was the pug (who sounded aggressive) off-leash in an on-leash walking area? Why was a man, out for an afternoon walk with his dog, carrying a knife in his pocket??

I have a small dog who hates Huskies and German Shepherds with a passion and there is no way I would let him off-leash in an area where these breeds may be present. Things can get ugly pretty quickly as my dog, Nicky, loves to get in Husky and Shepherd faces and bark and growl at them and in a fight with either of these breeds, no doubt Nicky would lose… badly. So, my question is, What was this man thinking?

Then I saw the Pit Bull owners on television last night, clearly traumatized. Through their perspective the off-leash Pug charged their Pit Bull, Pandora, and would not stop barking at her. Pandora grabbed the Pug’s ear in her mouth, correcting the Pug’s behaviour as all dogs do. The Pug owner then pulled out a knife and stabbed Pandora twice. She fell to the ground. The Pug owner then stood over her, stabbing her eight more times yelling “You deserve to die”! That description chills my blood.

As we all know, there are many Pit Bull haters in the world. There is, in fact, an entire facebook page dedicated to the best ways to kill Pit Bulls. It is horrific but speaks to the amount of people in the world who hate Pitties and desperately want to hurt, maim and kill them. The more I read about this incident, the more I think that man was walking his dog off-leash with the full knowledge his pug may start a fight with a Pittie and he was ready, knife in pocket, to do harm. If the Pug’s medical report comes back with minor injuries this man needs to be arrested and charged with causing the death of this companion animal.

If I were the woman, watching a man stab my best friend 10 times while she laid bleeding on the ground, I would be completely traumatized and demand justice.

If I were the man, whose dog instigated a fight and I retaliated by stabbing someone else’s dog 10 times as she lay bleeding and whimpering on the ground, I would expect consequences. Harsh consequences.

R.I.P. Pandora

Pandora the Pit Bull with a friend

Pandora the Pit Bull with a friend


8 Comments on “Self Defense or Looking for Trouble?

  1. I’ve been away this week, so have just heard this story. The pug owner is in the wrong, plain and simple. Having your aggressive dog in an off leash area clearly puts him at fault. Dogs are better at setting boundaries with each other, and I am quite sure that all that the pit was doing was setting its boundaries with his dog.

    Pits get a bad rap. I’ve read some of the comments from people who get a knee jerk reaction and say that the pit was at fault, without knowing what transpired. News outlets assume the same thing. Small pug vs pitbull, of course the pittie was at fault. I have some amazing pit bulls in my neighbourhood. Well trained, great with other dogs and even kids. People who don’t really know shouldn’t comment without knowing.

    As for the dog owner.. He’s a hazard to civilized society and should have the book (and bookshelf) thrown at him. Walking around with a knife? What was he thinking? These kinds of people make me worried. They carry weapons around with them hidden, and straightaway go to the most deadly form of aggression without even trying other methods of conflict resolution. People like these are the George Zimmermans of the world. Sadly, they never see their actions from the point of view of the people they attack. They dearly need to.

      • I dislike reading the news sites on stories like these. “Man stabs dog after pitbull attacks his dog” Why do they assume that that was the case..?

        If you actually read the details of the story, the women were walking the dog, his off leash pug came up and barked at it, the pit nipped her ear (which is pretty much what all dogs do to set boundaries), on a pug, its ears are close to its round body, so I can agree that people might assume that it was biting its neck.

        But the actions of the man were pretty much psychopathic. He pulled out a knife, stabbed her and even after she fell to the ground after the first blow, he kept doing it another 10 times, all the while shouting profanities at it. He then took his dog, got into his SUV and drove off, until the police caught up with him.

        I worry that I share this planet, or even this province with people like this.

        Now, how many people who have heard this news this week, taken the time to get to the real facts of the matter instead of just rushing to a “pit bull = bad” conclusion.

        Another thing. Would his actions also permit the owners of the pitbull to use deadly force on him because he was attacking their dog? In civilised society we don’t go to these extremes, he clearly doesn’t have any civility in him.

  2. What a completely tragic story.
    I agree with the Zimmerman comparison. Sounds to me like an angry man looking for a reason to hurt something. So very sad.

  3. Thanks for dropping by my site and liking my photo of one of our daughters and one of our foster pit bulls. While fostering pits, we learned so much about them. The main thing is that most of them are loving and sweet. In fact, they used to be called “nanny dogs” because they’re so good with children. The dogs we fostered had been either neglected or abused and although they needed work in some areas, they were filled with love. Dogs off-leash when there are other dogs around are a problem waiting to happen. Far too many owners don’t train their dogs, regardless of breed. When a pit bull is involved in anything, the words “pit bull” are almost always in the title of the article whereas that’s not the case with other breeds. Owners are usually the problem (as with most problem dogs), either pushing pits to be aggressive or getting those that have been bred that way.

    If you get the chance, see the movie “Beyond the Myth.” It debunks so many ideas people have about pits and points out the discrimination that they and their owners face. Anyone who owns a pit or a Rottweiler or Doberman or German Shepherd should be sure to train their dogs well so that they don’t in any way perpetuate the bad ideas about them.


  4. This is a heart-breaking story, and it’s more than understandable that Pandora’s people would be traumatized at being attacked while out for a ‘normal day’ walk. Your questions are good ones. The story is troubling – I wonder, if such people (as the fellow who knifed the on-leash dog) see that a man ‘got away with murder’ by shooting a young man in Florida, maybe they figure ‘anything goes’. Thanks for sharing and asking the good questions.

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